Well couldn't you use those Analog cards on a Set Top Box, and using a IR Blaster to change the channels?<div><br></div><div>I used my PVR-150 that way when I was using mythtv. The set top box has an analog signal no?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:41 PM, solarflow99 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:solarflow99-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org">solarflow99@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
isn't it true that in several months, all those analog cards won't work anymore?<br>
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:32 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier <<a href="mailto:hugh-pmF8o41NoarQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org">hugh-pmF8o41NoarQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Lennart Sorensen wrote:<br>
><br>
> | Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:06:23 -0500<br>
> | From: Lennart Sorensen <<a href="mailto:lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbuL8BFgmvp+Ig@public.gmane.orgoo.ca">lsorense-1wCw9BSqJbv44Nm34jS7GywD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org</a>><br>
> | Reply-To: <a href="mailto:tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org">tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org</a><br>
> | To: <a href="mailto:tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org">tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org</a><br>
> | Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Intel SandyBridge... I don't get it.<br>
> |<br>
> | On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:46:25PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:<br>
><br>
> | > + I want to stay with analog as long as I can because DRM prevents<br>
> | > recording digital cable signals (the record-component-out hack is a<br>
> | > little hacky, but I will try that; it requires a lot of Rogers STBs<br>
> | > and whacky open-loop control of the tuner)<br>
> |<br>
> | Open loop?<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-loop_controller" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-loop_controller</a><br>
><br>
> The controller gets no feedback from the controllee so it doesn't know<br>
> for sure that its commands have had the desired effect. IR remotes<br>
> are only open-loop because they assume that the human can monitor the<br>
> results and correct for failures. An IR blaster cannot observe the TV<br>
> screen or set-top-box display to see if the commands were registered.<br>
><br>
> Is firewire control of the STB yield feedback to the controller?<br>
><br>
> Another question:<br>
><br>
> I bought a firewire controller just for controlling a couple of STBs.<br>
> The controller has one ordinary FW connector and two 9-pin connectors<br>
> ones for 800MHz firewire (I think).<br>
> <a href="http://www.dynexproducts.com/products/computers/DX-PCI2PF.html" target="_blank">http://www.dynexproducts.com/products/computers/DX-PCI2PF.html</a><br>
> I guess that I need a 9-Pin to old-fashioned FW converter or cable.<br>
><br>
> Is that correct? Are such cables common?<br>
><br>
> | > So: how much better are 1156 systems than 775 systems (and Socket AM2+<br>
> | > systems) for my purpose?<br>
> |<br>
> | Depends what you are doing.<br>
><br>
> TV stuff.<br>
><br>
> [I've just ordered DDR3 RAM, so I'm getting committed to this<br>
> project: nothing I currently have would accept DDR3 DIMMs.]<br>
><br>
> | > Will 5 SD streams swamp + whatever Myth is doing swamp the memory bus?<br>
> | > If so, 1156 would be much better.<br>
> |<br>
> | Well if you use hardware mpeg2 compression cards, then I doubt it would<br>
> | be much load at all.<br>
><br>
> Yes.<br>
><br>
> | > Will anything need much CPU? Since I've been living with an Athlon<br>
> | > 1700 XP, I think the CPU issue is minor. I do hope to add a couple of<br>
> | > Hauppauge HD PVRs and I don't know what load that adds.<br>
> |<br>
> | The HD PVR compresses to MPEG 4 in hardware, so the data isn't that much,<br>
> | although USB being extremely inefficient may take a decent chunk of CPU<br>
> | to handle.<br>
><br>
> Are USB3 ports (as on the socket 1156 I'm looking at, (when used as<br>
> USB 2 (for the Hauppauge HD PVR) likely to be less CPU intensive than<br>
> ordinary USB2 ports?<br>
><br>
> | Of course there are crazy solutions out there:<br>
> | <a href="http://www.magma.com/4slot.asp" target="_blank">http://www.magma.com/4slot.asp</a><br>
> |<br>
> | Box with 4 PCI slots, attaches by cable to the host and uses one slot<br>
> | there (PCIe or PCI, your choice). Too bad it is stupidly expensive<br>
> | ($1500). It would be cheaper to build multiple backend machines with<br>
> | a couple of PCI cards each.<br>
> |<br>
> | Another method is a PCI bridge riser like this one:<br>
> | <a href="http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/rc2-019-p-686.html" target="_blank">http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/rc2-019-p-686.html</a><br>
> | Turns one PCI slot into 3 slots. Add a PCI extender cable and you could<br>
> | actually use multiple. How you mount the cards in the case is another<br>
> | interesting issue then.<br>
><br>
> A big honking motherboard looks to be cheaper.<br>
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