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I will look into GetAFreelancer.com...also if there is a volunteer position available in your shop, I will be happy to take on the challenge...thanks for the suggestions<br><br><br>> Subject: RE: [TLUG]: Learning to Program<br>> From: tleslie-RBVUpeUoHUc@public.gmane.org<br>> To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org<br>> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:48:32 -0400<br>> <br>> There are two things you can do immediately,<br>> volunteer in a shop,<br>> I have "hired" on about 9 volunteers over the years<br>> and passed employment onto 8 out of nine of them.<br>> Typical volunteer periods of 4 months, i.e.<br>> get teeth into a decent sized project, and to<br>> be able to prove your worth.<br>> <br>> You can also bid on a job board, i.e. <br>> "get a freelancer . com " or the others,<br>> if you are willing to work for escrowed funds<br>> released on clients satisfaction,<br>> then you simply have to low bid ,<br>> and you can be working for $$$$ tomorrow.<br>> You can bid and take on small jobs,<br>> pretty much in any programing facet.<br>> you will eventually grow out<br>> of board bid freelancing as<br>> its slightly above slave labour on the evolution chain,<br>> but it will serve the purpose, you will get work,<br>> and you'll get it as quick as you need, at a cost<br>> of only get remunerated at 10$/hr? 15$/hr 6$/hr .... it varies.<br>> <br>> -tl<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 11:06 -0400, Kevin Morris wrote:<br>> > thanks will make that part of my strategy...I do a lot of work on my<br>> > own, guess I need to market skills..<br>> > <br>> > > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:59:08 -0400<br>> > > From: talexb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<br>> > > To: tlug-lxSQFCZeNF4@public.gmane.org<br>> > > Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Learning to Program<br>> > > <br>> > > On 10/2/07, Kevin Morris <kevjmorris-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:<br>> > > ><br>> > > > You are a self-taught programmer, so how did you get your first<br>> > programming gig? as<br>> > > > I am finding that most jobs require a minimum of 1-2 years<br>> > experience. Any suggestions!<br>> > > <br>> > > Um, get experience? :)<br>> > > <br>> > > But seriously .. if you're passionate about something, just start<br>> > > doing whatever it is as a hobby, and then start showing your stuff<br>> > > around, or talking it up. This works if you're keen on pretty well<br>> > > anything.<br>> > > <br>> > > Do that enough, tell people you're looking for work in the field,<br>> > and<br>> > > pretty soon you'll have work.<br>> > > <br>> > > The reasons this strategy might fail would be if you're not really<br>> > > that passionate about what you do; you don't work hard enough at<br>> > your<br>> > > craft; you don't tell enough people that you're looking for work; or<br>> > > you're telling the wrong people.<br>> > > <br>> > > The most powerful kind of advertising is word-of-mouth.<br>> > > <br>> > > So come up with a 30 second pitch for the kind of work you do, and<br>> > > tell everyone you know, and everyone you come across. If enough<br>> > people<br>> > > know what you do, opportunities should present themselves to you.<br>> > > <br>> > > Alex<br>> > > --<br>> > > The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/<br>> > > TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns<br>> > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > ______________________________________________________________________<br>> > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger<br>> <br>> --<br>> The Toronto Linux Users Group. Meetings: http://gtalug.org/<br>> TLUG requests: Linux topics, No HTML, wrap text below 80 columns<br>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE: http://gtalug.org/wiki/Mailing_lists<br><br /><hr />Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! <a href='http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/' target='_new'>MSN Messenger</a></body>
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