On 1/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">D. Hugh Redelmeier</b> <<a href="mailto:hugh-pmF8o41NoarQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org">hugh-pmF8o41NoarQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I just got a new "terms of service" from Rogers. It is now unified to<br>cover all Rogers services. Things that I noted in my first quick<br>glance. This document doesn't seem to be online.<br><br>Definition:
<br><br> "Equipment" means any device, equipment or hardware used to<br> access the Services or used in conjunction with the Services,<br> including any SIM (Subscriber Identity Module) card.<br><br>This definition catches things I own, not just Rogers' property.
<br>That makes a lot of things very wrong in the sequel.</blockquote><div><br>This doesn't sound like a bad thing. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
14. You may not use the Services for anything other than your own<br> personal use. You may not resell the Services, receive any charge or<br> benefit for the use of the Services or provide internet access or any
<br> other feature of the Services to any third party. You may not share<br> or transfer your Services without our express consent.<br><br>a. the internet is about sharing. Is a web server sharing my Service<br>when it sends a message to me??
</blockquote><div><br>No, but if you re-sell web services to someone, and those services are being provided by Rogers through your account, then I imagine you'll be liable. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
b. does that mean that the rest of my household (family) cannot use the internet?</blockquote><div><br>You family's use of the Internet connection probably falls under the umbrella of 'your own personal use'.<br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Summary: I think that this is overreaching.</blockquote><div><br>Nah, it's just lawyers earning their salaries.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> 19. ... We may also access or preserve content or information to<br> comply with legal process in Canada or foreign jurisdictions, ...
<br><br>Notice the word "foreign". This is inappropriate and unacceptible.</blockquote><div><br>Unless the CIA gets involved in something that you're doing, I wouldn't worry about it. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
51. [WRT Television Services] Only one television or FM receiver may be<br> attached to any outlet. ...<br><br>Does this prohibit VCRs, PVRs, etc?</blockquote><div><br>The fragment you listed doesn't refer to those devices, so I'd interpret that as meaning that there are no limits.
<br></div><br>And no, I am not a lawyer. ;)<br><br></div>-- <br>Alex Beamish<br>Toronto, Ontario<br>aka talexb